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Corgan “in a great mood”, demoing new and fresh material 3:30 pm // Thursday, March 26, 2009

Posted by jjb in billy corgan, news, studio.

According to SmashingPumpkins.com (“your source for all things Pumpkins”), the king worker bee is back at it:

Billy is working alongside Kerry [Brown] to create some new demos!

In regards to the demos, Billy has said “It’s going well and I’m very happy and in a great mood. I’m not sad (about what has happened), actually excited to be working on new SP!”

In addition, Billy hints that “The songs sound like Spring!”

UPDATE: Electric Prunes bassist Mark Tulin is assisting Corgan in some capacity.


1. theFred - 3:37 pm // Thursday, March 26, 2009

i see claritin commercials in the future of the pumpkins

2. drbenway - 3:46 pm // Thursday, March 26, 2009

Still in the “denial” stage are we, Mr. Corgan?

3. TL - 3:49 pm // Thursday, March 26, 2009

well I think it’s sad that Billy is not upset of jimmy departure…

he’s like ” no no no I’m not touched by the fact he’s leaving..I’m sooo happy ah ah ah!”
like a revenge ou proudness or something..
Why I’m saying that ? —->he says he’s happy in three different way lol

But anyway…good to have a musical/material news at last..

4. drbenway - 4:04 pm // Thursday, March 26, 2009

Yeah, I’m still extremely curious about what he’s working on. I just hope he can get back to surprising us. To my ears, he has doesn’t anything that sounded new since TFE.

5. Yma - 4:07 pm // Thursday, March 26, 2009

Wonder if Jimmy already heard these song ideas, and wasn’t feeling them.

6. Bob - 4:20 pm // Thursday, March 26, 2009

It’s so sad to read all your comments … indeed Pumpkins-Fans are strangest ever

7. TL - 4:22 pm // Thursday, March 26, 2009

indeed, I agree with you Bob..totally

I guess it’s because the pumpkins and Corgan are the strangest band ever…

8. melabonbon - 4:23 pm // Thursday, March 26, 2009


9. dustrock - 4:56 pm // Thursday, March 26, 2009

the only way this Jimmy issue is going to benefit the band is if it pushes Billy to another masterpiece.

He’s always at his best when he’s pissed off at everyone.

10. Ugh - 5:44 pm // Thursday, March 26, 2009

Sounds like Zwan…

11. Stephen Bayne - 8:24 pm // Thursday, March 26, 2009

Perhaps Jimmy’s line about their being no dramas bad blood was true. If Billy and Jimmy are as close as they say they may have just sat down and had a long talk and came to an understanding. I always got the feeling Jimmy gets Billy and knows how to deal with him.

If Jimmy’s happy and Billy’s happy (And hopefully recording all those neat new songs they payed during the 20th anniversary tour. Gossamer included) then I’m happy.

12. Greg - 9:06 pm // Thursday, March 26, 2009

Great…here comes Linda Strawberry

13. BitterRootOfSelf - 10:48 pm // Thursday, March 26, 2009

Jimmy better have recorded all the new songs that only he can pull off, from the 20th anniversary tour. If he abandoned those insane technical drumming songs i will be upset. He has made the best music of his career in my opinion since reforming SP, i just dont understand.

And WTF does spring sound like. Better sound like rage!!!

14. dustrock - 10:59 pm // Thursday, March 26, 2009

yeah, without Jimmy as the filter, do Strawberry and Sasha Grey start to influence Billy?

recap: Shady $29,000

15. jjb - 12:51 am // Friday, March 27, 2009

drbenway: Still in the “denial” stage are we, Mr. Corgan?
Ugh: Sounds like Zwan…

Among my many pet theories is that Zwan’s joyousness was a (denialist? contrarian?) response to 9/11.

But I loved Zwan (the band, but not the studio album so much), so I’m not saying this to be negative.

16. jjb - 1:07 am // Friday, March 27, 2009

dustrock: Jimmy as the filter

I’m so tired of this notion that whomever Corgan is in a band with is filtering out negative inputs that, otherwise, Corgan would swallow whole. If you (anyone, not just dustrock) think James and D’Arcy and Jimmy were such great filters, explain whichever you personally believe in/dislike out of the following list: Mellon Collie/TAFH’s kitchen-sink approach, Adore’s ponderousness, Machina’s density, Zwan’s commercial choices, and/or Zeitgeist’s bombast.

It’s exactly stuff like this “filter” BS that makes Corgan look dead-on accurate when he complains that, even after everything, his fans have no confidence in him. Heck, it even makes his complaints in If All Goes Wrong about “Soma” look reasonable.

17. 34 - 1:19 am // Friday, March 27, 2009

@dustrock: I’m sure Billy’s a big enough boy to be able to make up his own mind. And who’s to say hanging around hot young girls is necessarily going to be a bad influence?

For that matter, who’s to say that there haven’t always been cute little 20-somethings hanging around “influencing” him? Of course there have- he’s a rock star, man. The only reason you never heard of all the other girls he hangs out with are because they weren’t porn stars having a big fancy birthday party at a club, which is somehow “news” in our culture. Or is it that only the ones who get media coverage are an evil influence?

18. monocoque - 4:27 am // Friday, March 27, 2009

“The songs sound like Spring!”

judging from his past records of breaking promise and contradicting what he said earlier, it’s nothing but a good sign.

btw i hope Jimmy will play on ARB and Gossamer at least as a “guest” appearance.
he should, no other drummer can play those songs.

19. arpeggi - 5:03 am // Friday, March 27, 2009

(mm I’m the only one who thinks that Spring is not the season, but this obscured-enough-to-be-mentioned-by-Billy british progressive group: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT65NYrL4I4 ?)

(and that scares me)

20. Bountiful_Wateland - 9:33 am // Friday, March 27, 2009

Arpeggi you might just be on to something, it sounds like the kind of thing that would have been a cover for the 20th Anniversary Shows…

21. drbenway - 9:40 am // Friday, March 27, 2009

“Among my many pet theories is that Zwan’s joyousness was a (denialist? contrarian?) response to 9/11.”

Yeah, I do recall listening to MSOTS through the prism of 9/11 (though I suppose it would have been hard not to, at the time). Though it is pretty clearly a break-up album, so it was an interesting blend of public and personal tragedy. Its upbeat delivery, for me, made it all the more depressing: there’s something utterly heart-breaking about putting on a brave face in light of incalculable pain.

Maybe it would be a good time for MSOTS retrospective…

22. melabonbon - 9:40 am // Friday, March 27, 2009

well, rhapsody lists a few other bands by the same name.
one seems to be ambient electronic, one is described as power pop, another is folk, and another is what i believe is a swedish pop group.

23. deathrockduck - 12:05 pm // Friday, March 27, 2009

At least he’s working with Kerry Brown… so that gives me hope.

24. Ray - 12:12 pm // Friday, March 27, 2009

I think it’s self-reference.

‘before the rites of spring come to mean all things’

Age of Innocence – which was played on the 20th

recaptcha: Alice concerned


25. lala - 12:20 pm // Friday, March 27, 2009

i hope he will record a song for a son, owata, as rome burns and maybe even 99 floors …
what do you think guys?

26. drbenway - 12:27 pm // Friday, March 27, 2009

Well… Owata definitely sounds like spring…

27. chris - 12:30 pm // Friday, March 27, 2009

@lala: I read “demos” as meaning new songs not previously played.

I’m wondering if Billy considers that because Song for a Son, Owata, and As Rome Burns were officially released in soundboard quality through livesp.com there isn’t really a need for him to record them in the studio? Personally I think a high-quality live version with all band members contributing may be better than a studio version anyway, although As Rome Burns could use a bit of tightening up.

28. mnatario - 12:43 pm // Friday, March 27, 2009

I’m diggin the retro vibe of that Spring tune even if I don’t think Corgan was referring to them. Hey Billy, Im pretty decent on the skins!! “-). Long live SP!

29. lala - 12:50 pm // Friday, March 27, 2009

@ Chris …
i agree that it is likely that “demos” mean new songs … but on the other hand …
i do not realy believe that livesp.com is a proper way to realese music …
that website is just for hardcore SP fans and not for anyone else
as rome burns doesnt realy sound “clean” in the live version and i would be
very much intrigued to hear a studio version. owata and song for a son both sound
like hit radio singles … so …

30. Ian - 4:53 pm // Friday, March 27, 2009

a picture with a twelve string and a piano look pretty promising to me, at least in the way that these new demos are trying to fill more sonic space than Zeitgeist’s pounders (saying that in no way negatively towards Zeitgeist). a new album with new sounds, and the challenge of not having Jimmy right behind him I think is going to prove to be fortuitous! Yes!

31. dustrock - 9:57 pm // Friday, March 27, 2009

thought Zwan was a purposeful attempt to step away from the “angst” of SP, as well as a look into Billy’s newfound spirituality.

recaptcha: F-A (stomp?!?) Honor

32. Rat In A Cage - 3:02 pm // Saturday, March 28, 2009

I’m still awaiting to hear exactly what that ex-bassist for Jane’s Addiction contributed to “Zeitgeist” before getting interested in this guy.

33. drbenway - 3:08 pm // Saturday, March 28, 2009

The Jane’s Addiction guy, I believe, was auditioning for the tour. I wasn’t under the impression he contributed anything to the record.

34. lala - 7:52 am // Sunday, March 29, 2009

electric prunes … ??? am … they dont sound like the pumpkins … at all

35. dettina - 10:05 am // Sunday, March 29, 2009

at least we know he is sticking with the psychedelic idea which i think is really intriguing. i don’t know many electric prunes songs at all but i like the ones i know.. for some reason all the responses at the sp website are negative. i rather have this than the second coming of zwan ( i liked a lot of zwan songs i just prefer the darker billy)

36. Scott - 7:44 pm // Monday, March 30, 2009

I was surprised to see that he was going to work with a bassist for the demos. Why not do it himself or even with Ginger? We’ll have to wait and see…

37. Spag - 10:43 am // Tuesday, March 31, 2009

@Scott: Exactly what I thought. Why work with anybody outside the Pumpkins at all if you don’t even include your own bandmembers?

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