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Corgan to tout Oceania “album experience” at SXSW conference 1:27 am // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

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Todd Wasserman of tech-news site Mashable reports tonight that Smashing Pumpkins leader Billy Corgan will appear at the South by Southwest Interactive conference in Austin to discuss plans for the rollout of his band’s upcoming album Oceania.

“Our aim is to turn the ‘social’ into a new way to experience an album,” Corgan told Mashable. “By taking the medium one step further we will create an experience with Oceania online and off-line that transcends the single and the single mentality in all ways.”

Corgan will speak on March 12 at a session led by Brian Solis, who works at tech consultancy Altimeter Group but is not a social media expert—which is just as well, as the Pumpkins already have a strategy to garner publicity online:

[Corgan] added that the band is, “Working closely with Superfans as gatekeepers to help interaction on a fan-to fan level by promoting their Smashing Pumpkins related blogs and enlisting their help in maintaining a few official Smashing Pumpkins social media sites.”

UPDATE: Kerry Brown: “LOL”.

UPDATE: HU asked a contact with the band to clarify the typo-marred quotation attributed by Mashable to a publicist. We received the following statement in response, attributed to the “Smashing Pumpkins Digital Team”:

We will not be marketing this record in the traditional way such as releasing a single or a video, the key is that we are going to use technology to bring back the album experience.

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1. Bounitful_Wastland - 1:36 am // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

Oceania…. in IMAX 3D!

2. not me - 1:57 am // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

Machina Mystery part II- now on Facebook! Featuring a 3% ratio of related comments among all the “ZOMG I LUV U GUYS” drivel, pleas for concerts in the posters’ home towns/countries, bitching about the old members, random spam, etc.

I will remain cautiously optimistic about this, but honestly, I don’t see it having a good chance of working out the way they imagine (i.e. positively), not to mention SP’s less than stellar track record with “new technology” and fan interaction. And at the end of the day, I just wanna listen to the damn album already. Why does there have to be a gimmick along with it (which no doubt is continuing to push back the release date further & further)?

3. Jonk - 2:13 am // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

^When was the last time you were wowed unexpectedly?

4. THE FREAK - 2:42 am // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

This is unique release method is just an excuse for when the album gets panned by critics.

5. Daniel - 3:04 am // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

so…Oceania with free Sasha Grey website membership?

6. me - 3:15 am // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

superfans as gatekeepers? gatekeepers against what?

funny/sad/annoying how even in an attempt to promote some sort of unifying social concept this manages to be framed in a divisive way.

7. Just_Erick - 3:17 am // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

I was excited reading the title of the post but left confused. I don’t think I understand what Billy exactly wants to do. Has he not tried this numerous times and ends with him becoming angry?

8. lala - 3:56 am // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

Sounds strange but I like strange. I don’t realy know what to make of this. I just want the album. Anything else is just an added bonus.

@The Freak

fuck the critics. they can go and listen to Bon Iver or whatever they like today.

9. internetcliche - 4:10 am // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

I don’t like the idea of him announcing the release date in an interview, it gives me the feeling that it will be disappointingly far away.

10. gsmamz - 4:17 am // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

Meh.

11. magpie33 - 4:40 am // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

announcement about an announcement ….i get deja vu everytime i come here.

12. meh - 5:11 am // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

kerry brown’s twitter…

“@mashable: Billy Corgan to Use SXSW to Announce Smashing Pumpkins ‘Album Experience’ [EXCLUSIVE] – http://on.mash.to/yzqkBt” LOL

13. meh - 5:19 am // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

kerry wrote LOL…. not me.

14. snowtrooper - 7:41 am // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

sp/matrix crossover?

15. lala - 8:21 am // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

alot of whining from you “fans”. you don’t even know what the plan is. jesus

16. Is he one? - 8:34 am // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

Kerry’s “LOL” wasn’t very cool. I hope he explains it.

17. melanieannemarie - 9:00 am // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

“Social” things are really not Billy’s strong suit.

18. Woody - 9:18 am // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

How about releasing the thing and letting us interact by, I don’t know, listening to the music?

19. Woody - 9:19 am // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

Do we even have a release date yet? I’m tipping not September 2011

20. Sad Navigator - 9:30 am // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

You know, the whole “interactive viral what what” aspect of this makes me think that the music could become available pretty soon after the SXSW announcement. The promo-to-release window is getting shorter and shorter for releases. Labels used to work new albums and lead singles for MONTHS. Now it seems like it’s official announcement, single, single, drop. I seem to recall that Radiohead’s King of Limbs was announced and then available about a month later. Online distribution and trying to beat the pirates speeds things up. Plus it seems that SP wants a bit of what NIN had with Year Zero or whatever. I get the impetus. There’s NO money in record sales and not nearly what there used to be in touring. If you’re gonna try and be a big deal in 20?? you gotta shake it up a bit and try to make the band/brand more than just a few easily stolen and discarded files.

That said, I kinda want the record yesterday. But, hey, it’s been a while since I’ve been like ’90s-teenage-me excited/frustrated/whatever about wanting an album to JUST COME OUT ALREADY. Kids today…blah, blah, blah…

21. duy - 10:02 am // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

The Kerry Brown LOL made me lol.

22. Bah - 10:30 am // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

Kerry’s “LOL” is just stupid. Watching 40-something men be catty and passive aggressive on the internet is tiring. Just say what you want to say already.

My best guess is that Billy (in one of his many rants) probably went on and on to Kerry about how SXSW was some hipster bullshit that he had no interest in, but now he’s going to use it as a pedestal for the new album.

Either way, stop being pussies and just say whats on your mind.

23. Is he one? - 10:37 am // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

Kerry, while I love his personnality, seems like a child stuck in a middle age man body. At least as much as Billy, possibly more. Not that this is a bad thing per se but in this situation (LOL), it is. Only my opinion though.

24. Oh Monz - 11:31 am // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

Wasn’t Lol that song they released a while ago?

Maybe it’s the first single.

25. Acknowledge - 11:48 am // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

LOL @Oh Monz.

Maybe he’s LOLing cause it was his idea.

26. Ben - 12:06 pm // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

What does Kerry mean by “LOL”? Why does Corgan have a knack for pushing people away.

Ai dios!

27. Spumkins33 - 12:20 pm // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

Who are these “superfans”? Monte? I fucking hate that guy. Romney-supporting-homo-and-jew-hating-bastard. Yea, THAT’S who I want controlling my Oceania experience.

I applaud Billy for trying new things and understanding that the album is dead to the bulk of music listeners, but if this fucks up (which it’s poised to), then POOF there goes the band I love :(.

I do want to know what Kerry was LOLing about, though…

28. Dystopic - 12:25 pm // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

You know it’s Monte. “Gatekeeper” means running a blog with comments disabled.

29. Johnny - 12:54 pm // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

Does this mean HU is now an “underground” fansite? I feel so hardcore.

30. Is he one? - 1:21 pm // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

@Spumkins
Why do you say Monte is hating on jews and gays? Not that I don’t believe you but I’d like to know. That would make me like him a lot less too.

Ben - 1:36 pm // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

Who is this Monte guy? He sounds like a real prick.

31. listers_mullet - 2:39 pm // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

I’m intrigued by all this, but the “superfan gatekeeper” bit is worthy of much lulz because it’s obviously referring to Monte, who is barely literate and clearly has a screw loose (someone find me his fan video for “All Things Change” so newcomers can know who they’re dealing with).

32. Is he one? - 2:46 pm // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

Would love to see this “All things change” fan vid!

33. Cain - 2:46 pm // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

I don’t like this shotgun effect idea Billy is using with the album. Throwing out many different ideas in hopes that one will actually be successful. Good music speaks for itself.

34. frustrato-fan - 2:58 pm // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

I can’t take any more confusion: Billz, would you pwease just release Oceania and bring back the soundzzz! :D

35. suzi slimm - 3:20 pm // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

MONTE THE SUPER-WEIRDO: Movie in Theaters 2012. Bam! Directed by Tim Burton (while drunk).

Ben - 3:34 pm // Wednesday, February 29, 2012
36. Just_Erick - 3:46 pm // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

You know, earlier in this thread I said I was confused (and I still am) but I was digging further into what Billy wants to do and I came to my own conclusion…This project sounds like what Bjork recently did with “Biophilia,” An album thats connected to something in order to get the full experience, and I think Kerry’s, “LOL” comes from how incredible gimmicky that sounds.

Those of us who wen’t to the SPRC meeting in 2011 and spoke with KB know that his interest were releasing the music to the fans in the best way possible and he was very excited asking us questions in what we wanted. This talk about using “Gatekeepers,” (which lets face it, it will be Monte) and using a continual online experience as part of the album and blah blah blah sounds really exaggerated (but then again its Billy). I am going to sound a little bit cynical here but I hope the album is as strong as Billy thinks, he is certainly hyping this up an incredible amount ( just like Zeitgeist, just like Zwan, just like Teargarden…ect) and fans are usually left disappointed.

If the music is really good, people will listen. Why must there be some “something” attached to everything…

37. jjb - 3:52 pm // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

While I get the surface comparison to ‘Biophilia,’ I don’t see much reason to think that Corgan has, or has had the time to, put in an effort on the non-musical aspects that would be anywhere close to what Bjork did for that record. (I’ll be happy to be proven wrong, of course.) If you have a chance, check out Nitsuh Abebe’s feature on ‘Biophilia’ that was published this week.

38. apm - 4:11 pm // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

BC vs. a Hurricane, who would win?

/saturday-night-live-the-superfans

39. Sad Navigator - 4:13 pm // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

@jjb, I kinda agree. Bjork’s projects (including Biophilia) are usually pretty thinky and meticulously designed. Corgan seems to do his best work in yr standard “songwriter guy who likes noise” mode. (And that’s no knock. It’s a good mode. A lot of my favs do that sort of thing.) In my perfect alternate universe, Corgan would drop an album a year on a mid-to-large indie. Prolly alternating between hushed/acoustic/dreamy solo stuff and full-band rock efforts. Some would be great. Some might be a bit dodgy. He’d be a crazy prolific cult artist. But seems like he wants it ALL. NOW. The audience. The cultural cachet. The pomp and circumstance. That’s cool. I hope it works again.

40. Just_Erick - 4:21 pm // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

Yea I read that “Biophelia” article yesterday while reading the “Gay Marriage is White washed,” (a good read).

Yea I was just making that Biophilia connection at a surface level, I mean this is all speculation. Its doubtful that Billy will get anywhere as deep as what Biophilia did in terms of using other outlets as a means to deliver the overall album. I was just referring to his ambition of what he wants to do, it just sounds like he wants to connect somethings to Oceania and use the “super” fans as vessels to get the word out.

Kanye West also did something very similar with, “My Dark Twisted Fantasy.” He advertised small music video segments from different songs that eventually became one long music video that depicted the album. It was continuous, it was online and he wanted it to be a part of the over all album experience.

41. Spumkins33 - 4:52 pm // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

Once again, fuck Monte. That is all.

Bjork’s “Biophelia” did not work. I love the shit out of that woman, but it did not work. Coming from a marketing background, this has got to make sense and there needs to be a common thread with the album that would resonate with the audience. I’m not seeing, as we call it in the industry, “connecting the dots”…

Billy’s got a lot of really exciting ideas, but I don’t think he has the proper people around him to help utilize them and see them successfully into fruition.

As a fan, I plea. PLEASE re-evaluate this :(

SXSW – are there going to be a lot of Smashing Pumpkins fans there? It’s usually a hipster no-name-band suckfest. Even the fans of the smaller bands hate everything (and download illegally, etc.). I don’t think Billy needs to pander to this crowd.

42. susan - 5:24 pm // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

@Spumkins33

Well, I doubt many/any SP fans planned to go to this in advance since we had basically no notice and from all appearances Billy got tagged onto to Brian Solis’s panel (which according to the original description was supposed to be primarily about Solis’s new book – which perhaps it still will be, in part).

And now it’s time for real talk: Speaking as someone who has lived in Austin for almost 7 years now, don’t talk about SXSW until you really understand what it is. Many unknown acts play in the hopes of getting a contract, sure, but honestly it’s not so much about that anymore. Most of the bands that are in official showcases play other free shows during the week around town. These days many well-established, widely popular acts come into town to play too. There are probably thousands of live shows – pretty much any venue that could theoretically ever host a live show is hosting live shows every day and in many cases all day every day. It’s insanity. Take any music festival you were thinking of and multiply it by a thousand. It’s just a gigantic, massive cultural event. It is a freaking insanely fun time and I am not into hipster music by any means.

Now, to go to an official panel like the one is Billy is appearing at (which is part of SXSW Interactive), yes, you do have to buy a mondo expensive badge to get in the door.

43. Woody - 5:36 pm // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

Um, is all this Monte-hate an in-joke that I’m not in on? Coz I don’t get it. The dude’s just a massive Pumpkins fan and he, like the HU-crew, actually contributes something to the fan-community… so maybe people could have a little respect…?

44. apm - 5:41 pm // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

Pumpkins Marketing Strategy #394.

Ben - 5:58 pm // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

Seriously, WHO THE FUCK IS THIS MONTY GUY?!

45. Lukas Judge - 6:12 pm // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

Monte runs Crestfallen.com. He is a long time super-fan, a nice guy to interact with, looks like Milhouse, is passionate, kind, and dedicated, and simply has never come out and admitted that his religious perspectives are hateful, corrupt, anti-American, anti-civil rights, and extremely backward.

Monte should be left alone on a live-and-left-live basis, unless you take issue with him contributing money to his corrupt religious freak show of choice (he is a Mormon) whom subvert the legal system through lobbying in an attempt to control people and peoples’ lives. He has, in fact, contributed money. Mormonism is an obvious con job, and is sadly highly successful. On an ethical level, you should just feel sorry for him. On a personal level, he’s nice. Never came at me with any propagandist attitude. Then again, why would he.

46. Redhawk - 6:39 pm // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

This is not going to turn out well. He keeps trying to push inferior music down people’s throats. It isn’t the marketing or the fans, it is you and the music that has been lacking.

47. colquittbrett - 6:57 pm // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

All I know is that if I can’t buy this fucking album in a fucking store, I don’t give a fuck.

48. Redhawk - 7:05 pm // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

Also, how many people actually read Crestfallen.com or Hipsters United? Maybe 10 thousand or so? The reach for that is very minimal.

49. Johnny - 7:42 pm // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

Fight hate with hate! Fuck EVEYONE!
Sigh.
This is shaping up to be neat though. High hopes! I think a move towards being known as an “album band” could work well for the Pumpkins, if they can pull it off (ie, if people can change thier perceptions).

50. 34 - 8:37 pm // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

Kerry’s LOL was obviously a thinly veiled reference to Lol Tolhurst, the original drummer (and later keyboardist) for The Cure. :P”

51. Hafsteinn - 10:42 pm // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

JUST

RELASE

MUSIC

this isnt very hard Billy, You already have a fucking fanbase – why do you repeatedly throw away more and more of it in order for what? to get to the alienated youth of today?
Do you honestly think that they can relate to you? How about you cultivate what you have righ in front of you, and stop the marketing bullshit.Its march now, just…release…music.

52. Kiernana - 10:55 pm // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

If it’s not released physically, then what was the point of all this delay? With the exception of the lot of us no one will be interested in being immersed in an online Pumpkins experience. So…if the point of the record deal and promotion is to drum up more attention for TbK since it has been received poorly by the general public, then this has FAIL written all over it. They should simply release a ‘good’ video, release a couple singles, sell a couple hundred thousand copies, tour and be happy. Cause if you can’t even do that and you’re one of the biggest alternative bands of all time, you can’t do the Bjork thing and make it work either.
Ahhh I’m just bitter cause I WANT THE ALBUM ALREADY.

53. BigAl6ft6 - 10:55 pm // Wednesday, February 29, 2012

Anybody think the wackiness of how the album is being released is because Billy couldn’t get a record deal that he wanted (more money for tea houses!) so they’re trying “Teargarden” web-release ver. 2?

54. Hafsteinn - 12:52 am // Thursday, March 1, 2012

we should petition him to stop with the gimmicks and just release music again.

55. JCelsius - 1:18 am // Thursday, March 1, 2012

@Hafsteinn We should really just let him do whatever the hell he wants to because it’s his music.

That said, I do wish he would cut this kind of stuff out. It’s one failed attempt after another. Most of us have heard several of the tracks from Oceania live, and from what I gather the general consensus is that the music is good. So….release the music already. You don’t need gimmicks or something pseudo-revolutionary attached to the album. I’m not opposed to him experimenting with new things, but maybe try it on the next project so it can be designed that way from the start. I would also like to add that I see no evidence that the album will not be released physically. Billy has been keen on releasing his music on both CD and vinyl up until now, so I think he realized the special nature of physically owning a copy of the music.

One last thing. We shouldn’t hate on Monte so much. Do I think his beliefs are backward and more than a little harmful to society? Yes. Does that make him a horrible person? I don’t think so. At any rate, his personal beliefs have about zilch to do with his fanaticism of the Pumpkins and what I really think is the stem of all this mud slinging, is a bit of jealousy. I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t jealous of him for having semi-regular contact with Billy.

56. lala - 1:35 am // Thursday, March 1, 2012

if Radiohead would do the same thing, YOU would suck them off from joy

57. Bounitful_Wastland - 3:01 am // Thursday, March 1, 2012

@JCelsius
@lala
I want to hug you both soooo much

58. lala - 3:13 am // Thursday, March 1, 2012

why dude? let billy do his thing. it is his music not yours. he made it, me can release it as he seems fit. don’t you agree?

59. Bounitful_Wastland - 3:15 am // Thursday, March 1, 2012

No, I totally agree with you guys!

60. lala - 4:56 am // Thursday, March 1, 2012

good buddy ;)

61. smiley - 5:27 am // Thursday, March 1, 2012

>if Radiohead would do the same thing, YOU would suck them off from joy

I wonder if BC has Radiohead nightmares at night. I might if I were in his shoes.

Everything that’s “outside the box” that Corgan tries and fails publicly at, Radiohead succeeds at a few years later. Adore? No way. Kid A? Hells yes! Machina II? WTF? In Rainbows? OMG! (those aren’t my opinions, just how I understand critic’s reactions to those releases.)

The only problem is I can’t actually hear any difference in RH music since Kid A. It sounds like they found a formula, and just keep repeating it, with some gimmicky tack-on to make it seem innovative.

Where as all Pumpkins material is undeniably Corgan, you can hear him pushing himself into all kinds of territory, at least trying. I never know what I’m gonna get when I hear a new Pumpkins track.

If it turns out that this “announcement” delivers Oceania in a similar way that Bjork delivered Biophilia, I’ll probably roll my eyes and say “Bjork already had a song called ‘Oceania’ and she knows how to say it correctly. Can’t wait to see Radiohead do this in a few years and blow everybody’s minds.”

Never the less, cut the crap and show us your willie.

62. lala - 7:19 am // Thursday, March 1, 2012

by the way taking personal shots at monte is very lame.

63. cabs - 7:30 am // Thursday, March 1, 2012

The album is released as the seperate vocal and instrument tracks that you can mix yourself, mess around with, record new bits, collaborate with other users etc and then upload to the Oceania website where people can leave ratings, comments and things. Billy and the band are gonna get involved in this so straight away, at launch, they’ll be alt mixes of the Oceania songs by Billy, maybe a couple by old favourites like Flood and Butch Vig. If you do a great remix maybe Billy will leave a comment and recommend it on the front page of the site.

When you upload something it’s completely open for other people to take what you’ve done and chop it/change it. Eg it’s possible that you could do a heavy remix of a pumpkins song and do an amazing job, Billy hears it and likes it and so decides to record new, agressive sounding vocals for it.

All new pumpkins songs will be released in this way (as well as all the Teargarden stuff released so far) and other bands will be encouraged to release their music on it. So Oceania starts as an album but the aim is for it to become a new social media/music production “platform”.

Billy (and other bands) will find new bands to promote on Oceania, new bands to tour with, people to do collaborations with. It’s amazing.

Or it’s some site where there’s a page for each song on the album with a bit of info on each song. We’re promised that there’ll be weekly or monthly updates where Billy records a little video about each song, adds diary stuff, photos, outtakes, studio footage etc. We get the first couple of updates on time, the next one in 6 months, the next one a week later (just so we think it’s back on schedule), then the next one a year later and it’s just footage of a crap interview with Jeff.

64. Misery - 7:54 am // Thursday, March 1, 2012

monte is my faverit SP member

65. Johnny - 8:42 am // Thursday, March 1, 2012

Did any of you guys read the “press release”? There is a physical album coming out. Maybe jjb could shed some light, but I don’t expect this to effect the price of the album, so Billy’s release adventure won’t hurt us as consumers. And of course it won’t change the music (which, when we first heard it, everyone agreed was excellent), I don’t understand what we have to complain about. If you think Billy doing little web videos or whatever ends up happening is lame, ignore it.
Now if someone wanted to throw around how they felt about the band eschewing a traditional single/video release, that might be worth discussion…

66. Misery - 8:46 am // Thursday, March 1, 2012

@Johnny
Why would anyone watch a Smashing Pumpkins video after Owata?

67. Johnny - 9:17 am // Thursday, March 1, 2012

Now we’re cooking! ;)
Although I moderately enjoyed Owata. Maybe Billy feels that Owata didn’t achieve the success he wanted? He’s been saying for a few years now that he feels videos no longer are an effective promotional mechanism. Maybe Owata proved it in his mind. Anyways, I don’t think they’re losing much by not releasing a video

68. frilbert - 9:19 am // Thursday, March 1, 2012

the only interaction i want to experience with my music is to press play on my stereo.

69. Hafsteinn - 9:22 am // Thursday, March 1, 2012

Johnny; its going to affect the album if they delay to work up clever ideas to release it.

70. Misery - 9:28 am // Thursday, March 1, 2012

@Johnny
Plus, it’s not as if they could ever top their music videos from the 90′s. But releasing a video would at least get some chart exposure for the song…

@frilbert
The only interaction I want it pressing play on my cassette walkman while my betamax record Footloose. LIVIN’ IN THE PAST BRO

@Hafsteinn
We have live bootlegs to last us, plus a more immersive experience will enhance the listening. A better album experience is a better album.

71. Kiernana - 9:47 am // Thursday, March 1, 2012

Right, cause the Pumpkins have a history of making the worst videos…

72. Hafsteinn - 9:48 am // Thursday, March 1, 2012

more immersive experience? this is music, you listen to it…

Ben - 10:48 am // Thursday, March 1, 2012

People need to realize a little something about the Smashing Pumpkins.

They (Billy) are an aging band, suffering from all the things that stinging bands do. Now the REAL problem is that they are probably one of the few bands that could transcend this and still make aware winning new music. The problem is Billy is a genius, but he refuses to work with the material that makes him a genius. The sad thing is, I think he was more intelligent about his music when he was younger. He realized ‘Hey, I can’t be like e stone else, I need my own sound’.
Now, especially in Teargarden, we can see Billy trying to be like the acts that he loved when he was a kid. More of the 60′s, touchy feely, psychadelic rock and none of what Corgan is known for putting his unique stamp on. Alternative Hard Rock.
But it’s not that he’s lost it. Oh no. Remeber Zeitgest? Fucking brilliant and an amazing listen! You know why? Because it’s what he does best! Great hard rock music!
Billy. I love you man, I still LOVE you after Taergarden and that album proves to me MORE THAN EVER that you’ve still got the Rock God in you and it couldn’t be more evident than with songs like “A Song For A Son”, “Freak”, “The Fellowship” “Tom Tom”, and especially “Lightning Strikes”. Please Billy, come back to us and to what you know you’re good at and what YOU love. And you know what? Your continue to win those Grammys, and you’d continue to get the fame and fortune, and best of all you get to take your rightful place in history as the brilliant influence that helped build the entire rock industry.

<3 u B.C., your loyal fan for life,
Ben

73. Eric B - 11:12 am // Thursday, March 1, 2012

I’m looking forward to this announcement. After hearing the live Oceania songs and hearing what people have said about the album, I’m seriously anticipating anything Oceania. I hope that record blows our minds in a way Billy has never done before. Whatever they decide to do with the album is cool with me.

74. Misery - 11:31 am // Thursday, March 1, 2012

@Kiernana
None of the videos post Machina are ‘great’

75. Kiernana - 11:58 am // Thursday, March 1, 2012

I never claimed they were…
But they certainly don’t nullify the quality of earlier ones. Nor do they prevent any potential future visual output to be great…

76. ryan - 1:04 pm // Thursday, March 1, 2012

“if Radiohead would do the same thing, YOU would suck them off from joy”

If Radiohead put out a press release like that people’s first reaction would be “When did Radiohead get a shitty publicist?”

77. lala - 1:18 pm // Thursday, March 1, 2012

@ryan

the last Radiohead album is shit, just admit it.

78. Is he one? - 1:33 pm // Thursday, March 1, 2012

Radiohead is boring nowadays. I like them, I loved them.

@Ben (Comment with no number between 72 and 73) I agree with you man, I feel the exact same way. Only love. :)

79. KingChris - 4:37 pm // Thursday, March 1, 2012

I don’t think people would be so emotional if they didn’t feel this would push the release date back even further.

We as fans just want to be able to have the cd or be able to download the music. If the music is good, people will notice and the band will be successful. As far as different promotions??? They won’t mean a thing if the music isn’t a quality product.

Most regular fans have not heard of the pumpkins since Zietgeist. That album would have been more successful if it would have followed the Pumpkins formula of mixing in some softer songs.

I just hope we don’t have to wait another 6 months for Oceania.

80. JCelsius - 6:01 pm // Thursday, March 1, 2012

@lala

King of Limbs was not shit. It was IMO too short to be a real album, but it had some good songs on it. Listen to “Lotus Flower” and try not to get your groove on.

81. Misery - 6:27 pm // Thursday, March 1, 2012

@JCelsius

Radiohead fans got short-changed on KoL, but it’s by no means a shit album. Their worst (not including Pablo honey) though.

@KingChris

It’s not as if the fans who’ve been waiting for Oceania are going to stop being fans if there’s another month or two waiting. SUSPENSE BREEDS EXCELLENCE/DISAPPOINTMENT

82. 34 - 2:01 am // Friday, March 2, 2012

@cabs

Now THAT would actually rule!

83. lala - 3:24 am // Friday, March 2, 2012

@JCelsius

It was shit. Just admit it. Not one good song. King of Limbs is the worst Radiohead album. The production is sooooooooooooooooooooo bland. Yuck!

84. Hafsteinn - 3:29 am // Friday, March 2, 2012

@Lala,
Im not gonna say here that Radioheads music is either bad nor good. But you trying to find a negative aspect to them does not make the recent SP events or music any better.

85. Graves - 3:40 am // Friday, March 2, 2012

Sp had a better 2011 than radiohead

86. Hafsteinn - 3:58 am // Friday, March 2, 2012

Radiohead had a no 3 album in the billboard 200, 6 grammy nominations, KOL named album of the year by a bunch of magazines. Top 5 of vinyl uk sales, but yeah that Wrestling video with SP truly was the pinnacle of art.

87. 34 - 4:45 am // Friday, March 2, 2012

45 & 55: true dat. Let’s all just get along as fans already, & leave the religious/political/etc. bullshit out of it.

88. lala - 5:08 am // Friday, March 2, 2012

@Hafsteinn

i am gonna go Kerry Brown on your ass —– LOL

89. Hafsteinn - 6:27 am // Friday, March 2, 2012

lost for words i suppose?

90. lala - 9:16 am // Friday, March 2, 2012

yes that is it. King of Limbs is a masterpiece. LOL Kerry Brown style!

91. Hafsteinn - 9:39 am // Friday, March 2, 2012

Are you completely retarded? I never said that i like that album ( I dont , but thats beside the point I was making to you.) Ironically you take something said about that band defensively.

@Lala,
“Im not gonna say here that Radioheads music is either bad nor good. But you trying to find a negative aspect to them does not make the recent SP events or music any better.”

92. lala - 9:58 am // Friday, March 2, 2012

you care to much what i think of you. maybe you should listen to some radiohead. it is good music if you wanna go to sleep.

93. JCelsius - 2:14 pm // Friday, March 2, 2012

@lala

I enjoyed the album. Not my favorite of theirs by far, but not as bland as you claim. It sounds like you just really don’t like the band.

94. lala - 2:44 pm // Friday, March 2, 2012

No, i like Radiohead but only until Kid A. The albums after that are not for me. They all sound the same and are ……….. Radiohead band members and most Radiohead fans are acting like they all have IQ’s of 160. That is not rock.

95. Graves - 3:40 pm // Friday, March 2, 2012

@hafsteinn Radiohead will always sell well. Grammy nom’s and top album lists don’t mean anything and everybody knows it. All i’m saying is that the stuff we’ve heard from oceania in 2011, is better than anything on KOL.

96. Jonk - 2:46 pm // Thursday, March 8, 2012

I like Smashing Pumpkins, Radiohead, and Sonic Youth. Why the need to compare?

97. Billy Corgan at South by Southwest Interactive… live blogged « Hipsters United - 2:15 pm // Monday, March 12, 2012

[...] I’m seeing, Corgan made remarks that were critical of the recording industry and promoted his rediscovered love for the album. I’d bet pretty good money that Google will be uploading video of this [...]

98. TheMusic.FM » Video: Billy Corgan Talks Music Industry’s Future at SXSW - 6:46 pm // Monday, March 12, 2012

[...] of his discussion today with Brian Solis at SXSW where he’ll discuss the unique “album experience” of the Pumpkins’ forthcoming Oceania, Billy Corgan sat down for a chat about the future of the music industry with Samsung’s [...]


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