US Tour Recap: Gear! 9:07 am // Monday, October 24, 2011
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With the US leg of the Other Side of the Kaleidyscope Tour finished, and the European tour a week off, I thought I’d make a rare post covering the gear used so far. Several months of updating SPFC’s equipment section have had some side effects- namely, my already meticulous concert setlist notes now include details on guitar changes! Lucky you, that means a whole article devoted to guitars & stuff (don’t worry, there’s pictures, too)! :D
Note that I’m still quite a novice when it comes to identifying guitars- while some people can tell you down to the year & specific model variations (custom, standard, junior, etc.), I can pretty much only identify the basic models (Strat, SG, LP, etc.), unless there’s something obvious (i.e. in the case of the SG Custom, which has 3 pickups rather than the usual 2). That said, this should provide a “good-enough” overview for non- to casual players, as well as a starting point for more experienced gearheards. And there’s pix of everything, so those with the knowledge, please feel free to chime in with more detailed information wherever. :)
Nicole was the most consistent member, going with a Fender Jazz bass for all songs. Although the colors were a bit hard to discern with the constantly changing colored lights, it appears she used 3 basses throughout the shows- a white one for Geek USA, Muzzle, Ruby, Cherub Rock, and Bullet, and 2 blueish-grey ones for everything else (one may have been more blue than grey, and vice versa- it’s hard to tell with colored lights). Given the white bass is a 1-1 match for guitar changes by Billy & Jeff, I’m designating that the E-flat bass, meaning one of the other basses was in drop-D to accomodate Siva, Silverfuck, etc., and the other in standard tuning. Although it’s also entirely possible that there were only 2 basses- one in Eb, and one in drop-D- which she used for songs in standard tuning as well.
Mike was next up, using his un-changing drum kit for each song, but heading over to a Roland Fantom X8 (one of the models used by Lisa Harriton during her time with the band) for the intro and outro to For Martha, opting for an electric piano/vibes preset, rather than the traditional piano sound heard on the album version. The keyboard parts in the middle of the song are filled in by guitar, with Billy strumming chords and Jeff playing the melody.
Billy was heavy on the strats this time, namely his own signature model, of which he had at least 3, all white, identifiable by their various stickers. The first has a Disney Tomorrowland “20,000 Leagues Under the Sea” (artwork visible here), and a black octopus sticker (with what looks like a stylized “3E” on its head), and was used on Quasar, Panopticon, Starla, Window Paine, Lightning Strikes, Oceania, My Love is Winter, For Martha, and Pissant.
The second (pictured at the top of the article) had a 76 gas station logo sticker with another “BURBANK” sticker on top of it- this was used on the E-flat songs (Geek, Muzzle, Ruby, Cherub Rock, Bullet). The third has a silver glittery “X” sticker, as well as a couple different-sized stickers of what look like the Devo “Energy Dome” hats, and a strawberry- this was used on Soma, Siva, Frail & Bedazzled, and Silverfuck, indicating it’s in drop-D tuning.
Finally, for his only non-strat, Billy uses a Gretsch Country Club for Obscured, Suffer (LA only), Pinwheels, and Owata (with a capo on the 5th fret). In addition to the guitars, Billy also plays the new (as of 2010) M4000D digital Mellotron (also pictured in the “20,000 Leagues” shot above) on Oceania. The back panel also includes the Chamberlin logo, which was the first sample-based music keyboard, on which the Mellotron was based.
Jeff has the widest variety of axes for this tour. First off, he uses a white Gibson SG Custom for Quasar, Panopticon, Starla, Frail & Bedazzled, and Silverfuck. He’s got 2 Les Pauls, both black- one with a white pickguard, and one with black; the black/white LP is used on E-flat songs, while the black/black one is used on Window Paine, Lightning Strikes, Some, Siva, and Pissant.
In addition to these, he’s got 3 Fender Jazzmasters: a black one used on Oceania, My Love is Winter, and Pinwheels; a red one used on Owata and For Martha; and a white one used on Obscured, Suffer (LA only), and Pale Horse. Finally, a tobacco sunburst Fender strat was used on Owata in the LA show, but this was swapped out for a Jazzmaster in Oakland, and possibly all subsequent shows (let me know if anyone’s spotted it elsewhere!).
Last but not least, Nicole, Billy, and Jeff all used a huge array of effect pedals, but even from the best shots I could manage from the balcony in LA, it’s pretty hard to make anything out other than the Voodo Pedal Power power supplies, some wah pedals, and Jeff’s Rocktron. I’ll leave that for the more hardcore gearheads. Also, if anyone has seen any other guitars used on this last tour that weren’t mentioned here, leave a comment here or drop a line to equipment at spfc dot org!
More pix can be seen for LA and Oakland, with all instruments tagged.
UPDATE (2011/10/27): Got some new info, straight from Jeff & Nicole!
First, Nicole is only using 2 basses- the white one for E-flat, and the blue-grey one for everything else. She’s using a Hipshot detuner to quickly switch between standard E tuning and drop-D, which works similar to a guitar D-Tuna, only on the headstock end (the regular tuning peg is replaced with an assembly that includes a lever that switches between the 2 tunings), rather than on the bridge. You can see the “Xtender” assembly on Nicole’s bass in this picture (zoom in on the headstock for more detail).
Second, some additional info on Billy’s Gretsch: all songs are in standard tuning (including Obscured), except Pinwheels, which is changed to “Rolling Stones” open G tuning (DGDGBD) on the same guitar between songs (Jeff plays in standard E). Also, as a few have noted, Muzzle is being playing in “standard” E-flat tuning, no dropping of the 2nd string to A-flat.
Finally, we have some updates from Jeff about his Jazzmasters, effects chains, and amps. There’s so much great stuff in here, I’m just gonna dump it here as is (w/ the addition of some links & a couple comments, noted by ed:). :)
–Jazzmasters: All three Jazzmasters are in standard tuning. The Red one is a mid-nineties ’62 reissue that I’ve had forever. The bridge has been changed to a Mustang-style bridge and the pickups are Lollars. It’s one of the best sounding Jazzmasters I’ve heard. It has that extra “thing” to it that you can’t explain. The other two are J. Mascis (ed: Dinosaur Jr.) signature models that Fender custom painted for me. The cream colored one has Curtis Novak pickups. These are his standard vintage-spec pickups. They sound very clear and chimey–the classic Jazzmaster sound. The black one has Novak wide-range humbuckers. These are the same pickups Lee Ranaldo (ed: Sonic Youth) puts in his guitars. In fact, I’ve heard the pickups Fender has been putting in the Lee Ranaldo signature models don’t sound anything like they are supposed to and Lee has had to have Curtis make him replacements.
On a normal night, this is the breakdown of Jazzmaster songs:
Oceania – Red
Suffer (first night only) – Cream
Obscured – Cream
Pale Horse – Cream
Owata – Red
For Martha – Red
Pinwheels – BlackHowever, because of noise issues usually having to do with bad power in the old theaters we’ve been playing, I’ve ended using the Black Jazzmaster because it has humbucking pickups. The single-coil pickups in the other are just too noisy to use some nights. Total bummer. It’s probably for this exact reason that people like David Gilmour, Clapton, and Jeff Beck–as well as a zillion other players (ed: like Billy! :D)–switched to using EMG‘s and/or Lace Sensor type pickups in the eighties and nineties. So on nights where I use the Black one a lot, it’s just because of noise and not sound preference or tuning.
–Effects: I had a new pedalboard made for this tour. It’s somewhat a work in progress, but I won’t change anything out again until next year. The reason for putting everything out on the floor versus having everything in the rack is sound. Before, I would have a long cable run before I hit any of my pedals; and the longer cable run you have, the more tone you lose. This is always a trade-off. Before, Billy and I had everything in our racks and used a MIDI loop/switching system. When you use one of these systems (and now there are many on the market), you have to use what is called a buffer. A buffer changes the signal coming out of your guitar from a high-impedance signal to a low-impedance one. What this allows you to do is make long cable runs without losing signal. Unfortunately, it changes the sound quite a bit. There’s a ton of stuff on the web talking about the pros and cons of all this. Many pedals–like all Boss pedals, but others as well–have buffers built into them. Some players hate what buffers do to their sound. That’s why over the last ten years or so, there has been such a craze towards “true bypass” pedals. Anyway… both Billy and I liked the sound of our amps when we plugged straight into them. Yet, playing a Pumpkins gig with no effects wasn’t a realistic option. Eventually, I figured out I could use three Keeley true bypass loopers and reach what I feel is a fair compromise. If I have all three loops turned off, I have pure, un-buffered signal. Here’s my signal chain:
Guitar –> Fulltone Clyde Wah –> Loop 1: Mad Professor Forest Green Compressor (my favorite compressor), Tone Freak Naked OD, Tone Freak Abunai II OD, Instruments for a New Electric Music Compact Faye Sing Phaser, Analog Man Chorus, Boss PS-5 Super Shifter –>
Loop 2: Boss RE-20 Space Echo, Eventide Time Factor Delay, Eventide Space –>
Loop 3: Line 6 M13 –> Amp
The Rocktron All Access is used to do the channel switching on the Randall Preamp. Everything else is done old-school. No presets or anything like that.
–Amp: I’m still using the Randall MTS moduler system but now I’m using a set of custom modules made by Antonin Salva from the Czech Republic. The man is a total amp wizard. His company is called Salvation Mods (www.salvationmods.com). My Randall preamp has four channels: Channel 1: Randall Tweed (this is the only standard module I’m using); Channel 2: Salvation Mash-All (emulates four different Marshall amps–59 Plexi, JCM 800, Jose Modded Marshall, and the JVM series); Channel 3: Prototype of a custom module Antonin is making for me based on an Orange Rockerverb head. This is my main distortion sound. It sounds amazing; Channel 4: Salvation Salvado. Module based on a Soldano head that I only use for leads.
Randall RT2/50 power amp into two Marshall 4×12 cabinets with Celestion Vintage 30s run in mono. I went back to using Marshall cabs for two reasons. One, the angle of the slant makes them much easier to hear on stage and also for the sound. Classic.
Well, there you have it! This should keep me busy for a while on the equipment section as I add all this in. HUGE thanks to Jeff & Nicole for the extra info!

Jeff has switched from Randall cabs to Marshall. My guess is due to the older songs being played. He also now has a Line 6 M13 pedalboard now.
Pretty sure Soma, Siva, Starla and Quasar are all in E. But then other songs are played on those guitars in Drop D. So the guitar techs ARE changing the tunings as the guitars go on and off stage.
I did notice Jeffs pedalboard was huge. At least twice as big as billys.
Agreed on the songs Brendo…
Silverfuck is in Dropped for sure D.
and it is possible to play a standard tuning song in dropped D…
Billy was very specific about the Burbak sticker guitar being Standard Eb tuning in a youtube vid.
Speaking of gear, it’s clear from the photo of Nicole she’s wearing some bling on her left ring finger. When will Hipsters United (or Monte) address this important issue?
Soma & siva are in standard tuning. :-)
All of Billy’s ‘signature’ guitars have had different necks installed, save one. The new necks appear to be closer to those on the 57 reissues- tinted maple, smaller headstock, 21 frets.
Really nice to hear Billy and Jeff going back to the original reverse-delay sound for the first section of Starla, like in 93-94. Billy used to have to play that part while singing.
Soma and Siva are EADGBE. Only songs on this tour in drop D were Frail/Silverfuck
I don’t think much has changed from the last leg on the effects front seems that BC was using the custom Chicago Iron Rack Wah w/foot controller, DLS RotoSim, for phasers either the ToadWorks RotoPhantasm or Source Audio Hot Hand Phaser/Flanger, delay was either the trusty KORG SDD2000 (which haven’t been visible since the 20th Ann shows) or the Line 6 M13 set to simulate the Digital Delay w/Mod. BC has a couple of expression pedals as well. Jeff’s board is bigger because he has the M13 on the floor for instant access rather than MIDI, for which he has the AxeFX for. Last tour he also had a Moollan fuzz next to the M13, and quite a few things in the rack as well. Rocktron All Accessfor both to recall all the rack based stuff. Jeff also has expression pedals for Wah and Whammy.
Jcoriha, in addition to Frail and Silverfuck, the first two (new) songs on the tour are in drop-D tuning (“Quasar” and “Panopticon.”)
“Muzzle” has the “B” string tuned down two half steps (one whole step) to “A.” All other songs are either in standard E tuning or Eb tuning.
Oh, my bad. I meant to say, with the exception of “Muzzle,” “Silverfuck,” “F&B,” “Quasar,” and “Panopticon,” all other songs are in standard E and Eb (flat) tuning, except “Obscured,” (which has an odd tuning: either EADGGC or EADGBC, or something else crazy like that).
Nicole confirmed on Twitter the bass in Pinwheels is dropped D. Not sure about the guitars.
I think they are using a regular E flat without the dropped B string tuning on Muzzle since they went straight from Geek>Muzzle without changing guitars.
Adam, I think you’re right about “Muzzle.” Gone is the usual droning “A” sound from the usual versions of the song. (Most people won’t notice that difference in sound though unless they pay close attention.)
CJ – I don’t think BC uses the EbAbDbGbAbEb tuning for Muzzle anymore like the album. Both of the shows I saw he went straight into it with no retuning from Geek. Same for Obscured tuning, I didn’t notice him change to a 2nd Country Club at LA for Suffer or Pale Horse at Oakland. I noticed him not changing tunings for Muzzle at the Fillmore shows either. Didn’t look for tuning on Quasar/Panopticon:was just absorbing the songs
Yep JCoriha, Adam beat you to it so I stand corrected on that point (on “Muzzle”).
About “Obscured,” it came right after “Silverfuck” (drop-D) on the tour, so Billy definitely switched guitars between that one and “Obscured.” That’s interesting if Billy did it in standard E tuning. Sounds about right, actually. I didn’t look for any guitar change when I saw SP in Boston Friday night (I was just taking in the ultra cool percussion sounds Mike was doing for the intro).
Speaking of Mike, how about that kid’s double duty and keyboard/synth skills on full display on “For Martha” during this tour? Never knew he had a little Tommy Lee in him! The version of that song SP played on this tour is easily the best ever, totally epic. (I could go on and on but the setlists and shows on this tour so far are among the best they’ve ever done, and certainly since the Mellon Collie tours).
And one more thing: After looking at YouTube footage of SP playing “Pinwheels,” it looks like it’s in some kind of drop-D tuning. You can definitely hear the open low “D” between the 4:00 and 4:20 mark. My guess is Billy’s guitar (and maybe Jeff’s too) is tuned one whole step down (DGCFAD).
CJ – Pinwheels is definitely in standard drop D. I kinda figured it out. Not sure about of the exact chord names but the general structure is…
Intro: C/G-G
Verse: G-Csus (kinda walks around the notes)-F-C
Chorus: G-F-C
That’s the general idea. I haven’t taken the time figure out the exact guitar parts.
Quasar, Panopticon, Starla, Frail and Bedazzled and Silverfuck are all being played in drop D. There are no tuning changes being made to those guitars.
Also, Jeff used the red Jazzmaster on Oceania in Providence. His black Jazzmaster has wide range humbucker (see Lee Ranaldo signature) pickups in a stealth pickup enclosure by Curtis Novak. Mike was telling me that they decided to use more pedals and less rack stuff on this tour because when they were rehearsing for the tour, they were running straight Marshalls and wanted to emulate that liveness an those cleans.
http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/the-smashing-pumpkins-billy-corgan-oceania-stands-up-with-my-best-work-507240/2
Got a picture of Billy’s Diezel Herbert settings in NYC. I tried them on mine when i got home. Sounds insane.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/spguitar/325348_10150333585274087_502834086_8217713_663998045_o.jpg
Great post 34! Love to see that equipment section getting updated :)
Thanks all for the comments & video link! Can’t believe I missed that one.
jeff and nicole
are fucking awesome
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