Smashing Pumpkins play new song “Tom Tom,” fan gets lyrics 10:45 am // Monday, September 20, 2010
Posted by jjb in live, lyrics, video.trackback
Above: Billy Corgan and friends performing the anticipated Teargarden track in Boise (YouTube)
A fan took and photographed a lyric sheet for “Tom Tom” that he found taped to the floor the next night in Salt Lake City.
Great. And I think As Rome Burns will be on vinyl, because of the vinyl picture. I hope not. It must be on one of the Eps.
That lyrics sheet is a great find!
I didn’t think that this song could get any better, but the new arrangement really adds to the song!
My personal feeling/hope is that this EP will be Freak/Spangled/The Fellowship/Tom Tom, with Tallulah Lu as the vinyl track. Next EP will be My Love is Winter/As Rome Burns/Owata/Blessed Mother, with another track for the vinyl. I think the reason he chose those songs to play for the main set is because he thinks they are the closest to being a finished arrangement. I wouldn’t mind having As Rome Burns on the vinyl though, as long as it gets released at some point.
Best lyrics for quite a long time. Feeling this one
My absolute killer track from Teargarden. Loved the Backwards clock society version, love this one too.
Actually like the Backwards Clock Society version better. Seemed a little darker.
I liked the Backward Clock Society one more but this I am so glad this song is being played live!
We got an MP3 of this yet?
Billy has hit his stride.
Settle Down.
Digging those lyrics. Great find!
Oh, come off it. If he’s “aping Zwan” or anything like that, I’ll take it over Zeitgeist-era drivel. At least Zwan had some (note: a lot) of heart to it. This has more in line with their late career stuff than anything post-breakup, I say. Good work, great lyrics, looking forward to it.
This is the only song I like so far on the Teargarden “album” (aside from As Rome burns, of which I still prefer the Jimmy version of that one).
Smart chord changes, decent lyrics, though the song still sounds fresh. Maybe after they play it for a while it will be a little smoother. It actually put me in a “1979″ mentality for a moment there (especially the chord change at the end).
Good song overall.
Dirt’, I think you’ll find that the drums in part are almost exactly the same as in Settle Down. Just sayin.
can all you people do is compare? its good or it isn’t. you give yourself the wrong mentality if you compare it to past works made up by a different writer, band, and vibe. saying its like something is fine, but why compare quality? it is what it is and shouldn’t be labeled because it doesn’t stand up to musically unrelated songs.
oh by the way this is yet another excellent addition to the teargarden project! keep it up billy!
so listen to drums, ignore guitars, lyrics, bass, vocals..
ya i agree with dirtofgrandeur. This sounds more Zwan’esque. I loved Zwan and I think this is my favorite song so far since the Pumpkins came back. I didnt like zeitgeist much but it grew on me. Still my fav song over that entire album.
P.S. I think Billy told mike to keep the drumming more simple because if you look at the earlier shows, you will notice he is all over the place on drums. I like it more simple.
P.P.S. Mike, if you read this, email me back fool. I want to hang out when you get back here.
These lyrics are awesome .. what a song!
Look, I am a huge fan of Tom, Tom, and I agree that its a very solid track however I enjoyed the BCS performance much more than this version. I personally just found this performance kind of…well boring and I am really hoping that the final version of the song is more “dark” and “pumpkins” than the Zwan era sound.
How does this remind ANYONE of Settle Down?!
The same drum parts? Do you run that Jimmy blog? Do you play drums? Are you smoking crack?
Goes to show, some people here will bitch about anything.
At austin soundcheck, “the fellowship” blaring. Fucking awesome.
Drevpile has a Jimmy Chamberlin doll shoved up his arse.
Come on dude, stop airing your grievences about Mike. Nobody here cares, we’re all still listening to the new songs, you’ve done nothing to dissuade us… and those who do hate Mike can go and join your lame club and stop bitching every single day about him.
We all love Jimmy, but he’s old flavour. Mike’s new flavour.
I don’t think there’s anything that could make me dislike “Tom Tom,” but after some thought, I agree with Brian, Monte, & Justerick. The BCS version struck me as a kind of deep winter song — like a cold ray of light in January (if that makes any sense). It’s the same reason I absolutely love “Into the Light.” I hope both these songs have stark _Machina II_ style production.
shut the fuck up rod steele you only speak for yourself. sometimes when a brand changes it’s flavor, it can suck (like mcdonalds new fries.. i prefer the old fries!).
who knows, maybe the smashing pumpkins brand will one day replace billy with a newer, younger, more energetic flavor.
anywayz.. personally i find the comparison to settle down interesting, but i disagree (OMG big shocker!). i think they’re going for more of a death cab for cutie vibe here.
I cant wait to hear Tom Tom live in Dallas. This could be a huge hit if Billy gets it out there in a big way. He really needs to find a more creative way to introduce it that first day. A free iTunes song promo or something along those lines. He could even hit up Amazon. Man I could really market this TBK thing.
I would love to see a return to the days of amazing SP videos. Nothing would promote the songs better than a well done video. Whatever happened to the Freak video(s) anyway?
gasp! wishing for videos?!?!? I cast thee out of thy past!!!
Unbelievable! My favorite of the Teargarden tracks, I loved the BCS performance and this one as well. The BCS performance did have a darker tone, but I definitely like the full band experience on this version. I cannot wait for it’s release!
Just saw him play it tonight. It was mind-blowing. He played it right after Spangled, for which he provided a hilarious introduction. Tonight’s show in Austin had some the best BC banter/humor I’ve seen at a show in a long time. The potheads in the audience helped that out, I’m sure.
Hmm. Saying that a song sounds a bit like zwan to me cos the drums are, in parts, almost exactly the same (following the vocal), is an attack on mike and bitching? I suppose saying it sounds even more like jcs part, because he’s using his signature snare, is a crime against humanity.
I’m not attempting to convince anyone of anything, it was a mere observation; people can read into it what they will – Always good to see when, in the first, it results in a personal attack.
Dude… seriously, you’ve made your opinion well known on the subject of Mike. We get it.
Just like we get that Adam is a fuckwit… only a complete idiot complains about the flavour of a brand after they changed the ingredients, then continuing to eat it… does this mean, you don’t listen to the Teargarden tracks? Why do you even bother here?
I love Jimmy’s playing, I’m hanging out for the This record aswell… you can call prolific underhanded comments “mere observations”… but you’re just being a dick.
Ok, I hope no one else ever likens anything Mike does, to anything his drumming hero has done before. I guess imitation isn’t the sincerest form of flattery.
I’m probably one of the big Zwan fans in the HU community, but it confuses me that this kind of issue of sounding like Zwan is even an issue at all.
Maybe there’s a lot of SP fans who are upset at drinking the Zeitgeist koolaid who are now digesting TBK?
The song kind of sounds like Machina-meets Zwan to me.
Has anyone listened to Matt Sweeney’s old band Chavez? I’m convinced that Matt Sweeney svante garde noise rock, paired with Billy’s more singer-songwriter songs made the group.
Saw ‘em last night in Austin…and they played this song again.
The setlist, as best I can recall…think it’s pretty close:
Astral Planes / Ava Adore / Today / Drown / As Rome Burns / Song for a Son / Eye / Bullet with Butterfly Wings / United States / Lick It Up [KISS] (tease) / Spangled / Tom Tom / Stand Inside Your Love / Tarantula / Zero / Tonight, Tonight // Freak / Gossamer
@Jonk–Chavez was a cool band and Ride the Fader is a great record, but I think characterizing them as avant garde (or even noise rock) is pushing it. They’re basically a post-punk-inspired indie/alt type band, fairly similar to Dinosaur Jr, etc. And yeah, Sweeney’s contributions of the Zwan thing did make the “vibe” for that band. Matt did a record with Bonnie Prince Billy called Superwolf that’s pretty nifty. Very much a folk-inspired, hushed sort of record.
Oh wow I dod not know that just because I don’t like a few of the teargarden tracks that I am no longer allowed to type here. Thanks for showing me the light, rod! Much appreciated!
@Drevpile — I read a recent review of one of the teargarden shows where the critic stated that he was impressed at how close mike was able to get jimmy chamberlin’s snare sound. I LOLed.
I don’t know, it’s kind of a cheesy thing for them to use the JC sig snare. Neither Billy nor Mike created that signature Smashing Pumpkins snare drum sound. Why, if they are trying to push ahead into the future, do they need to rely on old ‘flavors’ as rod steele so kindly put it? There are tons of other snares out in the world that could have got the job done.
who cares what snare is he using. just stfu already (no offence). listen only to drums, and critisize them. fuck, forget guitars, bass, vocals, lyrics.
Hope you taped it jjb or someone, was probably the best ive ever seen them that night. And i kind of get what chris was saying bout “tarantula” being the best live rock song in the set.
Oh, hey, I actually feel like this is reminiscent of the Pre-Gish material. I guess that makes it somehow irrelevant. Guess I gotta stop loving a great band because (heaven forbid) they have actually kept a semi-consistent set of styles and foundations across a decades long career.
Haters gonna hate.
How about the reason they are using the JC snare is because it’s the most consistent and versatile/best sounding snare out there?……because it is! Jimmy scored a home run with this snare, and Billy’s signature Strat is great too. My only complaint with the signature Strat is that I would have loved to see it in a few more colors. Every one I picked up cross country played great, very consistent. Perfect functionality/price point on both items for road worthy equipment. If so many name drummers didn’t have custom stuff I think the JC snare would be a lot more visible in pro setups. Just ask Chad Smith.
Comparing “Tom Tom” to “Settle Down” drum-wise is not an insult as far as I’m concerned. I like the drum arrangement in this version better, but the vocal performance from the BCS version seemed more emotionally invested. Can’t wait to see other nights performances.
@ Jonk
Yeah, Chavez was awesome! Great stuff that will likely appeal to an SP fan, if they haven’t heard them. Grab the release “Better Days Will Haunt You” for all their stuff combined.
Have heard a few rumors of them getting back together to record…hope it’s true.
those of you retorting what is an opinion with ‘if you don’t like it, don’t listen/type here,’ or calling those with differing view points ‘haters’… come up with something original.
Adam – how am I to know what Teargarden tracks you like? Your posts usually consist of some illogical bitching about how you have the god given right to bitch.
I just don’t know why Smashing Pumpkins fans can’t be a bit smarter than, say, a KISS fan or a Guns N’ Roses fan, and just simply go, hey… if it wasn’t for these new players, we wouldn’t be able to enjoy the band.
I’ve never seen the Pumpkins live before, got tickets for October.
I’m pretty sure I don’t give a damn if Jimmy Chamberlin is there (Of course, I love his ability as a drummer and he comes across as a genuinely nice guy from all press related materials)… but I’m not going to sit the whole way through a concert by my favourite band in the world… and pay them out over something as greviously simple and possible as “the original lineup”. Nor will I do it here.
rod– obviously you don’t read all of my posts.. maybe you tend to just notice the negative ones? maybe that says something about yourself. If you’d been paying attention you’d know which songs i do and dont like.
you really think guns n roses and kiss fans are all on board with what they are doing now? really? SP is not the only band facing so called ‘rabid’ fans who are not on board with everything they do under the sun.
I agree, I don’t understand why smashing pumpkins fans can’t be a bit smarter.
Really beautiful lyrics. I love this song, for some reason I had not heard Tom Tom before tonight. So I will say, its sad, melodic and fresh to my ears… I want to buy this:)
I wasn’t saying I think Guns N’ Roses fans or Kiss fans are all on board, I was saying the exact opposite. I’m afraid to waste $100 bucks on a ticket and a 12 hour road trip to see Gunners because I am adamant Axl will just pack the shits through the first song :(
I dunno – I guess we’re all big fans and just want the name of the Smashing Pumpkins to have a little bit of self respect behind it, no matter what differing opinions we have.
@michellemybelle – Shit, really? How have you not seen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7Z4P6kIbWY (sorry, I don’t know how to embed =/
@ rod – Respecting different opinions huh? Sounds awesome.
How about I continue to not personally attack anyone who happens to disagree with my opinion of the influence of Chamberlin on Bryne; and how I find that hard to reconcile with the Art of a ‘forward looking’ band and further with the wider conflicts of replication within Art.
I understand others don’t share my point of view and I understand why, but I don’t attempt to belittle or ridicule them.
And what would be even better is, if you and others don’t hurl direct personal attacks at me, when I happen to say something that you don’t agree with. This worked really well in The Fellowship post: I said the new SP sounds like Muse (which I was saying sounded like old SP with JC). No one said anything bad against me, I can only assume because people agreed? But saying here, the other new track sounds like Zwan; “oh well, that Drevpile is a JC loving asshat”, because you didn’t agree – it’s just not necessary is it.
The position that the band and us fans are in is a difficult one and there’s always going to be problems with reconciling the present and the future with the past.
I never said I respected your opinion.
I just said people respect the band in different ways and I need to accept that before I even bother to be annoyed by your Jimmy crush from the other side of the world.
By the way, if you were so respectful of other people – I’m sure you’d stop rubbing it in to Mike about how he’s not worthy. Who cares what type of snare he uses or if he doesn’t have the Machina II drum sound.
Stop being such a little bitch about being insulted on the internet aswell – Adam has insulted/been insulted by everyone on this page, I am sure he aint crying himself to sleep.
-facepalm-
face-palm.
face-fuck
face-fu*k
jesus just shut up already rod.
If life was fair, you’d shut up Adam. I can’t stand you. Who could?!
@rod
I think you are wrong and I am pretty sure that Adam has, indeed, lost sleep over worrying about this site and the people he argues with all the time. If he didn’t mind he’d have shut up a loooong time ago.
This was my 2 cents.
I could.
Mike byrne sucks. There I said it!
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